how can we get from baveno to menaggio by bus or train?
It is quite a complicated journey, and not one which I have done personally although I have travelled a great deal by bus and train in Italy.
1. First take bus or taxi for the short journey (5 mins or so) to Stresa. This bus timetable is the most up-to-date online and I doubt times have changed much...but do check locally:
2. Train from Stresa to Milan Centrale.
Train times, details and fares in English on the official Italian railway website:
Journey time is just over an hour for most departures, fare from 8.30 euro. Most departures are direct, though the odd one involves a change of train..so check the site before you decide which departure to catch.
3. Train from Milan Centrale to Como San Giovanni station. Times etc on the link above. Make sure you select 'Milano Centrale' and 'Como San Giovanni' (both places have several railway stations). Journey time and fare depends on type of train, from 36 minutes and 4.60 euro. Most departures are direct.
4. The C10 Como>Menaggio bus stops at the railway station (Como S Giovanni FS on the timetable). PDF timetable here:
and linked here:
Bus journey time is just over an hour.
Hope this helps. Maybe another VT-er will be able to come up with a better option but I couldn't find anything more direct.
You'll find it much easier than you expect, to be honest.
Trains are dead easy and ticket machines have English language options. They accept cash and give change,. They certainly accept chipped cards but I can't tell you from personal experience if they accept unchipped cards which have a PIN...although other VT-ers have told me that is the case.
Stations have a large electronic departure board in their entrance so you can see what platform you need as well as signage (electronic or TV screens) at platform entrances...sometimes along the platforms as well.
The one thing to make sure about is that you validate (date-stamp) tickets for Regionale trains. You are likely to use Regionale trains for both journeys and they do not have departure time or date on the, You validate them *before boarding* using the yellow cuboid or the more modern green-and-white ovoid machines in station entrances and at platform entrances (again, sometimes on platformds as well). The tickets are valid for 6 hours (I think) from being validated. There are on-the-spot fines for non-validation and guards do check.
Tickets for the more expensive and faster trains...the Freccia and Intercity trains...do not need validation because they have the date and departure time printed on them.
Once you are at Como S Giovanni, buy your bus ticket to Menaggio from the station bar/tabacchi/newsagent. Although some Italian buses allow you to pay the driver it is unusual...bus tickets are generally bought from tabacchi (shops licensed to sell tobacco), bars, newsagents. Again, make sure you validate the ticket as soon as you board the bus using the little machines inside.
Ask wherever you are staying in Baveno where you can buy the bus ticket for the Baveno>Stresa trip. :
Enjoy the journey...there are lots of train and bus departures on your route so it'll be fine. :-)
Ps Australia does drive on the 'right' side of the road...just as we in the UK do! :-)