In a similar vein to Travelfrosch's question below, I'm pondering the journey from Duesseldorf Flughafen to Aachen.
I know what train I will probably catch (1532) but there is a (very) slim possibility that I might manage the 1432. If I have an NRW ticket, which I can easily buy online, I don't have to buy a ticket for the Air Train from the terminal to Duesseldorf Flughafen railway station (ticket costs 2.50 euro, I think).
But if I buy a NRW ticket online for the 1532 and manage to get to the station in time to catch the 1432, can I use that ticket on that earlier train? I've had a look on DB and can't find anything relevant. I won't be buying an NRW dayticket, just an ordinary one-way fare.
In essence: is a single-journey NRW ticket departure-specific or can it be used on any equivalent train?
Thank you! :-)
Here's a link that might help. It's in German, but you should be able to translate it with Google Translate or Babelfish:
Essentially, it says the single ticket is valid up to two hours after you validate it. I'm not sure if that also applies for online tickets. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it means a ticket valid on the 1432 would also be valid on the 1532 and 1632. I'll look into it further and see what I can find out.
Here's what I found in the FAQ, translated into English with Google Translate:
C.5) Where can I find out if I my goal with the SchöneFahrtTicket NRW in 2 hours can reach? What happens if the 2-hour time limit for example behind schedule by bus and train is exceeded?
It should be noted that the nice ride Ticket NRW only may be used for trips, the vehicle schedule last no longer than 2 hours. Information on how long a scheduled journey of A tp B takes, please contact any customer center and outlets of the transport companies, at d s online timetable information provided by the comparison transport networks (www.vrr.de, www.vrsinfo.de etc.) or DB (www.bahn.de) and under www.nahverkehr.nrw.de, moreover, by telephone at the number located for bus and train at 01803-504030 (0.09 EUR / min. Telekom landline). In order for the customer between the purchase of the tickets and boarding do not have to rush begins the duration of 2 hours until 15 minutes after the devaluation or buying the tickets. In addition, the date on which it counts according to the timetable arrive at their destination. Have delays thus no effect on the (travel validity).
What I take that to mean is, if you buy the ticket for the 1432 and "miss" it, you can still use it for the 1532, as long as the total trip takes less than 2 hours. Alternatively, you can wait until you land in Duesseldorf Airport and buy it on your phone then.
This is a good question and I looked at bahn.de/i/view/USA/en/index.... and could not find a definitive answer. Though from a couple of experiences, I did not have a problem in Germany. But, I did have a problem in Belgium, traveling from Veriers to Liege then the next day Liege to Brussels, and had to pay extra. In short I think it depends on the mood of the conductor. I think I would try it and just be pleasant. Is a specific time ticket that much cheaper than an open ticket?
My thanks to both.
There is no difference in price between the two departures and no difference in price whether i buy the ticket online or when I get to the station. The trains I'll use are regional so there is no seat reservation involved. Journey time is around 1.5 hours.
The only reason I even thought about buying this particular ticket in advance is to save the 2.50 Air Train fare, which I discovered today. Yes, I'm really that mean (occasionally). :-)
Mark: Unfortunately, it's not a SchoeneFahrt (or Schoene-anything) ticket. It seems to be just a bog-standard NRW one-way ticket. I like the idea of using my phone..except that my phone is a pre-paid 'brick'. It works perfectly well in Europe, but will only do calls and texts anywhere.
Again, my thanks to both of you. Unless anyone can tell me that these tickets are truly 'open', and given that I have no idea whether my inbound flight will be delayed (I could, in theory, end up taking the 1632 or even later) I think I'll just stump up 2.50 euro for the Air Train ticket.
I'm not 100% familiar with NRW terminology, but it sounds like the "Shoene Fahrt ticket" IS the "bog standard NRW one-way ticket."
One thought: You could connect your phone via Wi-Fi at the airport. You get 30 free minutes in the terminal.
Ah yes...but that would require me to have a phone with wifi capability, wouldn't it? :-)
None of the prices for the Schoene-whatevers seem to be the same as the fare I'm being offered online for this journey. DB is a truly excellent website but I do sometimes wish they would make things just a little bit clearer...
Oh, I misunderstood - I thought you were going to use "Handy Ticket."
I read some more "Amtsprache" gobbbledygook on the NRW's "tarfifbestimungen." It seems to indicate that a 1-way ticket is valid on the day of "cancellation" (presumably the day you specify online) until 3 AM the following day, valid for a single ride during that time.
When in doubt, just spend the extra couple of Euros. I'm not sure the NRW-Tarif covers the SkyTrain anyway.
>An alternative is taking the S-Bahn from Düsseldorf airport to Düsseldorf central station, and boarding the train too Aachen there. The S-Bahn station at the airport ought to have ticket machines where you can buy the ticket on the spot. It then has to be validated (stamped) and will be valid for two hours from that moment onwards.
I was wondering that, Kathrin... but I wasn't personally familiar with Düsseldorf Airport, so I was reluctant to give specific advice like that.
Your post is very helpful, especially with Euromeet coming soon! :)
Thanks ever so, Kathrin. :-)
I'd considered the S-bahn routing but think I'll stick with the easiest option of a direct train from D Flug station. For various reasons (not physical) I need to make this whole trip as stress-free as I possibly can. .
So I'll stump up a couple of euro for the Sky Train (sorry, Air Train is at JFK and i got confuddled) and then just buy my ticket from the machines once i'm at the station.
I'm very much looking forward to a few relaxing and pleasant days with VT friends old and new. Fingers crossed for decent-ish weather! :-)
I just called NRW Ticket hotline and they told me the following:
the maximum time for this "Schoene Fahrt Ticket" is 2 hours, and the start time is fixed either by validating the ticket if bought at a ticket machine or by the time you set when you buy it online.
=> if you buy this ticket online for the 1432 connection, it's validation ends at 1632.
=> if you would buy this ticket at a ticket machine at Düsseldorf Airport trainstation, it is valid from the time you buy it until 2 hours later.
I am amazed that the Sky Train in Düsseldorf does cost a fee (Frankfurt does not charge for it), but according to the website:
I just called Düsseldorf Airport service hotline and the lady said that yes, there are ticket machines but as far as she knows, only for the Sky Train ride.
the lady who knows excatly which kinds of ticket machines are at these two stations will be back to work tomorrow.
=> I'll call tomorrow and let you know.
This doesn't help much, I believe.
Thank you both, and especially Ingrid for phoning up and clarifying the whole validation thing.
I'll sort it out, one way or the other. :-)
There is also a train at 1503, did you see that? But it runs slightly longer and arrives in Aachen at 1645. If you purchase the Schöne Fahrt one for this online (plus - or minus something like 10 minutes for the Sky Train), it should work.
Oh and welcome :-)
Yes, saw the 1503. I might well get that one if it suits, though I don't think I'll buy the ticket online in case I'm delayed. I land, in theory, at 1330 so everything really depends on when I manage to be landside and actually at D Flug station.
If I were you, I would also buy it on one of the ticket machines at the "airport", provided that you can buy the Schöne Fahrt one at one of the two Sky Train entries. With these three connections each half hour you are on the safe side with the 2 hours at least.
Will do. :-)
The SkyTrain counts tariff wise as a tram in the VRR local public transport association. The ticket machines there will sell you all types of VRR, VRS (as this tariff applies to Cologne) and NRW-fare tickets (incl.the various Schöne... NRW tickets).
Thank you! :-)