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a VirtualTourist member asked on Apr 20, 2014

Casablanca

Move to Casablanca

I am a young Irish gay guy offered a good job in Casablanca managing a salon. I do not know anything about culture here so am having second thought because of stories I'm being told , any advice personal experiences or tips would realy be appreciated



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answered on 4/20/14 by
a VT member from Essaouira

Try contacting ex pats in Casablaca
[original link]/casablanca-expats
Speaking French will be a bonus, but you might get by with English




answered on 4/20/14 by
a VT member

Thanks




answered on 4/20/14 by
a VT member from Glasgow

Homosexuality is illegal in Morocco, both under the religious Koranic and Civil Code, so as you may have already heard, any illegal activity detected will expose you to the common practice of having to pay bribes to police, government officials and the many informants, as and when demanded, after which that well-paid employment prospect might not appear so lucrative.....

Tread warily in this enterprise, if you decide to accept the employment offer, make a point of keeping your sexual predilections private because Moroccans are always curious to discover your life story and why a European would want to live in their disadvantaged third-world country. One careless word or "inadvisable" relationship will reveal your illegal weakness and be exploited accordingly.

Benny.




answered on 4/20/14 by
a VT member from London

Benny so is alcohol - officially there is a law that says even Muslims who sell alcohol can be imprisoned so all the alcohol you buy is officially putting MOroccans at risk - but this law has not been acted on for a long time. There are actually people working on that to try to get rid of the law so that the fundamentals cant use it to make trouble for both Moroccan Muslims and the many foreigners who live there - not particularly because of the many tourists but the many foreigners who live in Morocco and for human rights..
So same with homosexuality -where arent there homosexuals? Ive been involved with people there across the board and the gays i know there, of which there is not just a handful, the issue is not about paying bribes. ( its kept discreet but many are pretty much in the quiet understanding that the King himself was seen to be gay during his years in Europe and the majority of the country love him regardless - I have a lot of respect for him and it will be the downfall of the country if something happens to him and the fundamental party are given more of a foothold)
It is of course about being discreet and LOl Moroccans wanting to know why Europeans would want to live in their disadvantaged third world country - its officially a 2nd world country anyway (and i am constantly visiting poor areas in remote Morocco and take things for schools and people who dont have much, they themselves dont either see they are poverty stricken nor want their country to be unjustly run down.. improvements have been made so health care is more accessible, more schools built so the literacy levels have been improving, legal improvements too that improve people relations.
Benny have you not seen the numbers of Europeans who have been living there for years - for foreigners who think that Moroccan are so in awe of seeing foreigners coming to their country they should get off their bandwagon so they can see it with their eyes in balance.
...check out when Yves St Laurent moved to Morocco and he was surrounded by Europeans - why would familiarity with foreigners be restricted to Tangier with Paul Bowles? and for sure you are talking about Casablanca with its history as a base for the French.
Check out the percentage of Moroccos citizens that speak foreign languages and how many have Europeans in their families.

Prostitution is another good example - it still discreetly continues when in other Islamic countries women would be jailed, stoned, executed - you dont hear of that happening in Morocco...and not because of lack of womens rights.

Irishguy I would recommend having a good read around - around our VT travel pages, and back through the forum here, hopefully even my pages would give some insight into why I love Morocco as ive been wanting to promote Morocco for the past 10 years - there are excellent books around that you can read - for history and present day - do a google - there are negatives of course that there are many positives.

Casablanca is not where i would choose to live but i know foreigners who have married Moroccans and love having Casa as a 2nd home and I have loved having South Morocco as a 2nd home.
A wonderful opportunity for you and why not - life is short - there are many many people trying lives for a time in other countries, you dont have to stay in your home country for all your life!
Just be careful and dont get off board such as involved with children. you will find Morocco is really one of the most liberal islamic countries in the world and thankfully been able to stay stable during the unrest elsewhere. Something i hope the people will hang on to and not go the way of criticism and instability.




answered on 4/20/14 by
a VT member from Essaouira

Where in the question does it say that Irishguy30 is gay ??? are you just jumping to conclusions ?




answered on 4/20/14 by
a VT member from Essaouira

Oooops sorry, I've seen it now.!!




answered on 4/21/14 by
a VT member

Thank you for your response although I'm not sure you understand the term gay , it has absolutly nothing to do with children !!!!!




answered on 4/21/14 by
a VT member from London

Hi, there are guys that are gay and dont see a problem with being involved with boys ie males who are of a much younger age and dont see that as pedophilia - I know there are guys who go to Morocco looking for that opportunity - just pointing out that fairly discreet homosexual relationships go on in Morocco without much ado but underage/children involvement is the sort of area that on a national level people are generally not tolerant of.




answered on 4/21/14 by
a VT member from Glasgow

Despite what I previously advised (which was just a caveat) there has always been a homosexual presence in Morocco, way back in 1985 I was staying in a hotel opposite the Hotel el Muniria, Tangier, and each evening cars with diverse European number plates would park up outside, elderly gentlemen would emerge and stay the night in the hotel, I enquired of the other hotel guests about this unusual late-night activity and was informed that the Muniria was an all-male brothel, owned by an eccentric Englishman, who provided young brown-skinned Moroccan boys for the guests' enjoyment. That hotel had an international reputation dating back to the 1950's as a haunt of homosexual writers on extended drug ventures. Another example I distinctly recall, was the British character actor, Denholm Elliot, who owned a villa in Marrakesh, where he enjoyed the company of the Moroccan boys, all provided for him by confidants at a price which film star celebrities could afford, along with the protection that was essential to his obsession. Sadly, Denholm died in his Ibiza villa from AIDS, disguised on publicity releases as pneumonia. So, no doubt the gays in Morocco have moved on and their perceived eccentricity is more widely tolerated, but you will still have to be careful in any relationship, if you have money, some venal Moroccans will always look for an opportunity to extract it from you! ...............Benny.




answered on 5/17/14 by
a VT member

I am bisexual Moroccan, you can do whatever you want just you have to be discret, I mean holding hands or kissing outdoor it's not tolerated here, also the Moroccan society have a negative attitude towards the LGBT community





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