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Road trip recommendations for Normandy, England,Wales and Scotland

Hi Everyone,

We are from NZ and are first time travellers to the UK which is the home of our ancestors.
My husband and I are planning a road trip around England, Wales, Scotland and Normandy in September and October this year. We will have 4 weeks to do this trip and our focus is on Medieval Castles,Townships, Abbys & Churches etc - particularly of our ancestors like William the Conqueror (Hence the inclusion of Normandy) and subsequent Plantagenet family monarchs (Henry I,II,II & Edward I). I also would like to spend a few days in Cornwall visiting the places where my grandfather grew up (Falmouth).
At the moment we are thinking of the following itinerary and I would love feedback/ ideas on this from you please:
-starting in Paris (for 3 days to catch our breath post long flight) catch a train to Rouen or Caen and hiring a car from there for 4 days then dropping the car off at Calais and ferrying over to Dover.
- Hire a car from Dover and drive up to Leeds castle, then down to Battle, Winchester, visit Arundel Castle. Stay overnight in one of these places.
-Move on to Cornwall and stay in Falmouth for 2 nights. Include a visit to St Michael's Mount.

After this we would travel north and this is where we are struggling with what would make sense. Some ideas are...
-Go to Wales to visit Chepstow Castle, Pembroke Castle and up to the north to Caernarfon Castle.
- Visit the Cotswolds and Bath and even York??.
- My husband would also like to visit Scotland and see some of the highlights there.

After Scotland I was thinking we would return to London by train and then spend around 3 days in visiting the sights there like the Tower, Windsor Castle etc.

Thanks anyone for your advice here. Appreciate we can't do or see everything in 4 weeks but we would like to make the most of it.

Best regards,
Kathryn

Normandy   England   Wales   Scotland

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Mary from Leicester
Allowing for 7 days in France, 3 days in London and at least 3 days for the Dover to Falmouth segment you've really only got 2 weeks and a couple of days to explore the UK. So, unless you're willing to fly e.g. from Newquay to Edinburgh, you've really got to cut down on the places you want to see.
Note that Leeds Castle, though pretty, is not Medieval. It mostly dates from the 19th century!
I've posted separately to explain about driving in the UK and why map distances are only a very rough guide when planning a trip. Our congested roads mean that trying to include Scotland as well as the other places you mention is a bit of a stretch, unless you simply want to (figuratively) whizz around and 'tick boxes'. I suspect you don't want to do that so I suggest you (sadly) cut out Scotland on this trip.
Allowing for your interests and time constrictions I'd suggest this potential itinerary. I've tried to stick to no more than 3 hours' driving between each place. 
Falmouth to Bath and overnight there. (1 night)
From Bath across the Severn Bridge to Chepstow and from there to Hereford for overnight (and wonderful Medieval cathedral). Take in Tintern Abbey en route if you have time. Pembroke (Wales), though lovely, is simply too far away to be included in this timescale. (2)
Hereford to Harlech (fantastic castle) then drive on an hour or so to Caernarfon. Overnight there. (3)
Caernarfon to Chester (England) (fantastic Medieval cathedral, city walls, Roman remains), taking in the excellent Conwy castle on the way. Overnight in Chester. (4)
Chester to York. Allow 2 nights in York because a) getting there may be slow because of traffic congestion and b) there's simply so much to see: wonderful Medieval Minster, city walls, Roman remains, Viking remains (Jorvik), the Medieval Shambles etc etc. (6)
Now you have a choice for the next 6 days or so: either
a) work your way back down south via Lincoln (England) and perhaps Stratford-upon-Avon to include the Cotswolds and perhaps more of Devon, Dorset & Somerset (Plymouth? Portsmouth for the fantastic 'Mary Rose'? Lyme Regis? Avebury & Stonehenge?)
or b) Continue to work your way north up the east coast, visiting Alnwick (castle and lovely town), Durham (wonderful Medieval cathedral), some of Hadrian's Wall, the Holy Island of Holy Island (overnight there if the tides are right!) to Berwick-upon-Tweed and Edinburgh. There might even be time for a daytrip or two from Edinburgh before you get the the train back to London.
That's only a rough itinerary. The UK is so stuffed with historical sites & sites: there's simply too much to see in a short trip!
Useful websites:
Under-Channel Eurostar official site: https://www.eurostar.com/uk-en
UK official railway websitehttps://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
National Trust (owns many of the historical buildings 'with a roof'): https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/
English Heritage (owns historical buildings 'without a roof' in England e.g. castles): https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/
CADW (owns historical buildings 'with & without roof' in Wales:  https://cadw.gov.wales/?lang=en
Scottish historical sites & sites in public ownership are owned/run by Historic Scotland: https://www.historicenvironment.scot/
and the National Trust for Scotland: https://www.nts.org.uk/

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Kathryn
Hi Mary- this i wonderful- thank you so much for taking the time to reply and giving us such good advice.
 

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Mary
You're more than welcome! Ask more questions as your plans develop and I'll do my best to help. :-)
 
 
 

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  1. London (city)
  2. Dover (city)
  3. Falmouth (city)
  4. Newquay (city)
  5. Edinburgh (city)
  6. Bath (city)
  7. Chepstow (city)
  8. Hereford (city)
  9. Pembroke (Wales) (city)
  10. Harlech (city)
  11. Caernarfon (city)
  12. Chester (England) (city)
  13. York (city)
  14. Lincoln (England) (city)
  15. Stratford-upon-Avon (city)
  16. Alnwick (city)
  17. Durham (city)
  18. Hadrian's Wall (city)
  19. Holy Island (attraction)
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Mary from Leicester
A few pointers about driving in the UK:
1. Don't be misled by map distances. Any road journey will take longer than the map suggests, sometimes much longer.Our roads are frequently congested, even motorways, and especially so at peak times (roughly 7-9 am and 4-7 pm). Roads in rural areas are usually narrow (one lane in each direction, sometimes just one lane with occasional passing-places) and often winding: overtaking slower vehicles (trucks, tractors etc) can be impossible for several miles.
All these things combine to make journeys longer than the map suggests and ...importantly.. they make driving much more tiring too, because the driver really must remain fully alert all the time. 
2. Parking in city and town centres (not 'townships'..we only have cities, towns, villages and hamlets!) can be difficult and is often expensive. Make sure you keep a good amount of loose change for parking machines: pound and 50p coins are the most useful, though it's a good idea to also have some 20p and 10p coins to hand as well. Make sure you stick to the time you've paid for: traffic wardens patrol car parks and fines for overstaying are hefty.
Don't risk parking on double yellow lines, in 'resident-only' parking areas or on single yellow lines outside the allowed times (there'll be a sign somewhere). There are a lot of traffic wardens around, and not just in city centres!
It's always best to find accommodation which offers its own parking, (it may not be free) though this will be more difficult in city and town centres.
3. There are a huge number of speed cameras. They're on narrow rural roads as well as dual carriageways and motorways. If you're caught speeding the fine and/or licence points are automatic and the hire firm will chase you for the money. So always stick to the speed limit!
4. Hiring a car for a one-way trip will add a hefty premium to the total hire cost. Not all companies offer one-way hire so you'll probably be stuck with using one of the more expensive multinationals: Hertz, Avis, maybe Enterprise or Budget. The company website will indicate whether one-way hire is feasible when you try to get a quote. Car hire is pretty tightly regulated in the UK so it's not a matter of safety, just of cost.
5. Avoid buying fuel on the motorways. Service station prices are much higher than elsewhere (the same applies to food and drink they sell).

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