a VirtualTourist member from London
I am going in September but want to pick my train times right now. Which website do I use?
This site will give fares, schedules and tells you how to buy tickets
If you are going in September, wait until nearer the time.
A totally transformed timetable comes in in February, where only fast modern electric ETS trains will operate over the Gemas-KL-Butterworth-Padang Besar core section and disel-hauled Intercity trains will only run JB Sentral-Gemas to connect.
Davidjo has given you details of an excellent site for train travel.
I don't know if you are aware that for a number of years now you cannot travel directly from Singapore to KL by train but you must first get yourself across the causeway to Johor Bahru in Malaysia from which you get the train to KL. This is a messy and time consuming exercise no matter how you do it. See the site davidjo recommended for details on how to do it
Even when the train ran directly from SG to KL I would only ever take the night train (with sleeper) as it saved a nights accommodation. If traveling during the day I take a bus (and be assured I am one of the most avid train travellers on this site and will go out of my way to take a train over a bus any day but even I have limits).
Buses go from city centre to city centre in about 6 hrs (where from and to vary depending on operator). You are looking at least double that time by train when you add in getting to from the train at either end. Last time I did the it I used Aeroline - one of the upmarket offerings but a quick google suggests there are many more options.
Bus prices vary depending on service. Some certainly cost more than train but when you add connections to train pricest here will be cheaper bus options
So in summary unless you are planning to get the 22.30 from JB ariving in KL Sental (which isnt that central!) at 0715 I would strongly recommend a bus.
In terms of the other trains that run --- ie 2 daily - the 17.00 gets you into KL Sentral just past midnight - you may not like that
The other leaves JB at 8.40 meaning you need to be on the road from your hotel in Central Singapore by 6am... not so nice either.
Trust this assists.
Sorry I forgot to mention the proposed new timetable in Feb. Unless there are massive improvements to system (which I doubt as you still need to get to JB , you will still get diesel to Gemas and you still need to get from KL Sentrral ) bus will still be faster all up.
Although anything has to be better than 6 hours in a bus on an ugly 1990s-built motorway! :0)
Where is Singapore Woodlands? Is it part of the main train station?
There is Woodlands train station and there is Woodlands MRT station. The train station is where you get the train to JB. Woodlands is in the northern part of Singapore closer to the border with Malaysia. Woodlands MRT station is a metro or subway station. The train station and MRT station are not near to each other. The official train website is ktmb.com.my where you can buy train tickets.. but September is quite a distance away... personally I prefer buses to trains... many buses to choose from, and many depart from near city centre.. buses to KL usually go via second link checkpoint which is less crowded than the causeway... you can go to easybook.com or busonlineticket.com to check bus prices and pickup/drop off point... there are premium coaches with plush seats but with higher prices... getting over the border is not a hassle if you travel light.. backpackers love to travel via the causeway and catch cheaper buses from JB to peninsular Malaysia instead of starting journeys from Singapore... you can catch bus 170 from Kranji MRT station to the cuaseway.. you do have to get off at both Singapore and Malaysian immigration checkpoints.. but once you get to Malaysian checkpoint, the train station is conveniently located at JB Sentral which is connected to the immigration building.. or you can catch a shuttle train from Woodlands train station to JB Sentral and catch the connecting train to KL... the train ride from Woodlands to JB is a mere few minutes only... a better option if you have lots of luggage..
Steven .. You ask
'One of my queries is what is better? Bus or train? It does seem getting over the border is a big thing. So maybe a bus is better?'
It depends on how you define better...
I and walkietalkie2012 ( from Singapore) have come down on the side of bus.
Simply it takes half the time and is a lot less hassle.
Walkietalkie has explained Woodlands.
Yes the scenery from the bus is not that exciting unless you are into 1990s motorways but then again the majority of two of the three train options are in the dark
Only you can decide wich is better for you.
Last month I thought about traveling to Singapore from KL or the other way by the KTM trains. I ended up taking an airasia flight to Singapore and taking a bus back to KL.
Airasia flight cost: RM 35 (less than US$10)
The Bus: I took a shuttle bus to the Lankin JB station, then take a bus to KL. RM 35 (less than US$10)
How much is the train fare from Singapore to KL?
Currently, there is no direct train between Singapore and KL. You need to take a shuttle (S$5) provided by KTM Malaysia from Woodland Checkpoint to JB Sentral. Then take a train from JB Sentral to Kuala Lumpur Sentral. It depends the class and the seat to determine the fare, RM 35- RM90. You could click the following website to check it out:
But I don't think you can really book the ticket online, as the system always runs down! There is no convenient way for you to buy tickets in Singapore. You could call the hotline to make more inquiry.
Other than the bus, I think taking a flight could be an easier option for you.
this is a good site to find alternate city fares