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hi there i just got myself a job in perth starting mid january cant wait to get out there! what i need to know is how long the travel is to perth from mandurah? any tips on renting a furnished house? whats the area like in general? and the year round temps. is it really hot there? i hope so...... looking forward to coming over, a very cold John and Jayne from liverpool england
Hi - I'd recommend contacting the local expats. They are a wealth of information on everything from housing to grocers to where to get your hair cut! They usually get together for socializing on holidays and special events. Check the following links and google "Perth expats" for others. Good luck with your move.
Hi there. Mandurah is located approximtely 45 miles south of Perth and is serviced by good public transport into the city.
Its a nice area, popular with retirees due to its proximity to Perth. Golf courses, good shopping, beaches close by, everything is there.
Most houses in Australia are rented unfurnished (unlike the UK). Normally, the closer your house is to the beach, the more you pay.
You can do some research on www.realestate.com.au.
Weather in Perth in January - HOT ! Expect up to 40 degrees Celcius. Perth has a very temperate climate with no extremes of hot and cold. Average year round temperature would be around 23 degrees.
Hi John and Jayne
You lucky people - I lived in Perth for four years and absolutely loved it! However, January will be a bit of a trial by fire - hot dry heat, and January is the hottest month of all. It's a bit like stepping into a blast furnace if you're not used to it, so be prepared to take things very slowly for the first week or two until you start to acclimatise.
Madurah has a direct train link to Perth with trains about every half hour and the journey takes about 50 minutes. Follow the following link for an indication of train times and fares: transperth.wa.gov.au/Timetab...
There are people who live in Mandurah and commute into Perth, but it's a good long haul and the practicality of doing this really depends on living/working fairly close to rail stations, as otherwise it's a long haul if you're adding on extra bus/rail links.
I presume you know that Perth's a fairly expensive city to live in because it's the centre of the Western Australian mining industry, which pays well and drives up property prices? It's certainly possible to rent furnished accommodation in Perth, but it's not ideal - I would maybe book yourself into a furnished apartment for the first couple of weeks until you find your feet. My gut feel is that this would be harder to find in Mandurah.
Good luck and let us know if you need any more specific information.
Hi Donna thanks for the advice really appreciate it, as i say the move is in mid Jan. the firm i will be working for are putting us up for the first month until we get settled and sorted then its up to us to find somewere i did initially look at renting in Perth but as you say very expencive just needed a little advice from someone like yourself really the company are being really supportive even sorting Jayne with a few interviews to get her started as well i will only actually be at our place occasionally i will be working 2 weeks on and 7 days at home basis, the ex-pat forum is an excellent idea will do loads more research obviously, but i did look at a property near the coast for280 per week 3 bed place looked really nice and the location was good i thought that was reasonable? we did look in Perth and that was just silly money! well thank you so much for the tips and advice. John & Jayne
Good to hear that your company has been so accommodating in setting your wife up with interviews. You give no indication of what sort of work she does, but if you're set on living in Mandurah, just be aware that it's a much smaller town with a less diversified economy, so although she'll probably be fine finding a job locally if she has a 'mainstream' occupation (teacher, nurse etc), she may struggle to find something in Mandurah if she does something more specialised.
The expat websites are very useful for orientation purposes, but if it is your intention to stay long term in Oz, then my suggestion is that you give social interaction with the expat groups a wide berth. The best way to get to know a country is to interact with the local people. As you probably already know, the Greater Perth area is absolutely full of immigrants (more than one in five is either South African or Rhodesian) and there is also a significant population of expat Brits and Asians.
Unfortunately, rather than seeking to integrate into the culture of their new home, many of these immigrants tend to band together to try and recreate their former home environment, which - at least to me - rather defeats the purpose of having relocated in the first place. My personal experience of the expat groups was of a group of 'Whenwes' (starting rather too many sentences with 'When we were in ... [insert former location in Southern Africa]' and other sick puppies from Britain waxing nostalgically about how good things have been in the 'U Kay' and reciting Monty Python sketches. Which all begs the question of why they ever left, if things were so good in the first place where they came from ...
I think that expat circles are fine if you are in a more alien culture where you don't have key elements such as language and religion in common, but if you want to integrate into Oz, my suggestion would be to start as you mean to go on, and try to seek out and socialise with Australians. I found that Aussies were sociable and welcoming, and within a few months, I had established a network of Australian friends which really gave me a different perspective on the place. If you have kids then it's even easier, as schools provide you with a readymade social structure to fit into.
Hope this helps.
Cathy makes a good point. You need to talk to Aussies to find out the most relevant information.
I spent 14 hours on a plane recently (London - Singapore) sitting next to a young British couple who were relocating to Perth for work in the same way you are. They had loads of questions, 98% of which I was able to answer even though I live in Melbourne. They were very appreciative and said they felt less aprehensive and more excited about the move after talking to me.280.00 rent per week is pretty average. Aside from Mandurah, you could also look at living in Rockingham or Busselton.
Hi Cathy - certainly you should mix with the locals - and that is actually unavoidable - but expats can be your salvation. Of course, that also may depend on how different your old life is compared to your new life - which you know was my situation. The Mumbai group unfortunately did not form until a couple of years after I relocated so it was an awful time of stumbling around for me - even with an Indian husband! The group was never "when we" because there was just too much humor everyday(!) in our (at the time) situations. They were people who just "got it" and I so appreciated that. :-) Even in the case of the OP there may be times when he'd like to hang out with some countrymen - celebrating holidays and cheering for the same sports team. But I wouldn't think the adjustment from the UK to Australia would be too difficult.
Donna, John and Jayne will need to find an AFL (Australian Football League) team to follow. There are two clubs based in Perth - The West Coast Eagles and Fremantle. Once they have chosen a team and become passionate supporters (as millions of Aussies are) they will be "real fair dinkum Australians" LOL Heidi.
I think you've hit the nail on the head about expats, which is why I put in the original qualifier about language and religion. If I were to move to a country such as China or India where this wasn't the case, then I'm sure that they'd be invaluable and I'd join in the shake of a lamb's tail. However, Oz is similar enough not to pose the same culture shock, and I've seen it many, many times where expats have failed to settle and integrate because they've insisted on sticking with their own in a ghetto type mentality rather than embracing their new culture.
As for which AFL team to barrack for, well now we're onto very dangerous ground ...!!!
I have to ask the obvious question..where is your work place? If in the CBD area maybe Mandurah would be a good choice..to me280 a week is quite cheap..you probably will not have airconditioning (and believe me you will want it!!!)and you will be in an area a long way from facilities..then again I don't live in Mandurah..there are other VT people who live in the area who may be able to help. What about an apartment/unit rather than a house?
Mandurah is a city now with all the facilities you would enjoy in outer metropolitan Perth. Trains to Perth take 48 minutes, if you work in Perth CBD then there should be no problem.
Mandurah is always 2 to 4C below the Perth maximum. It also receives early sea breeze, but do expect hot days in Jan & Feb.
Mandurah is on the coast, good beaches, it also is built around the estuary and the Peel Inlet which is 100sq km.
we have a holiday home in Mandurah and you are welcome to view my Mandurah VT page, it might give you some good info.